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Gilmore Girls: Amy Sherman Palladino Was Team Logan All Along?

Why I Did This:

When I was writing "Inside the Monkey Habitat", an AYITL continuation, I found myself doing mental gymnastics to construct valid explanations for things that struck me as unreasonable and inexplicable. I could not understand #dynasticplan. I could not understand "You Jump I Jump, Jack" Logan settling into a loveless, passionless marriage. I researched the Sulzbergers and the newspaper industry to try to construct a way #dynasticplan could be some money-driven thing. That made no sense either (Money-wise, the Palladinos never seemed to care. See the Gilmores worry about Richard's pension. See the Gilmores fund an academic building. See Rory have no money. See Rory send ginormous boxes of clothes back and forth across the Atlantic. #whatever) but I didn't know what else to do with it. It was getting very complicated. It pained me to spend so much time on #explainingcanon I didn't understand. So I hit pause and decided to really try to "get it."

The "Open Ending" Challenge:
I believe I was invited to do just this very thing. In 'Gilmore Girls' Star Matt Czuchry on Rory and Logan's "Step Forward" and Revival's "Open" Ending,' Matt Czuchry is quoted as saying (regarding AYITL's "open" ending) this: "The intention is to keep that open. Their intention was to leave that open and put that out in the universe for fans to talk about and debate." Lauren Graham acknowledged that the show had a "heightened theatrical quality" to it and used "metaphors" to tell parts of the story in November 30, 2016 article "Lauren Graham responds to 'Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life' backlash."  I have debated it on online forums. I've given it a lot of thought. I've downloaded the transcripts and rewatched the scenes 3-4 times. I know what a metaphor is. I think I finally got (some of) it.

While my "conspiracy theory" may never be acknowledged as intentional, it should be noted that Amy Sherman-Palladino does not mention Logan in this November 2, 2016 article, Amy Sherman-Palladino just said some HARSH things about Team Dean and Team Jess on "Gilmore Girls." The article's author mentions him, but Amy's quote does not. The actual quote is: "Sometimes I wish that the Dean and Jess thing weren’t so prominent because in the grand scheme of Rory’s life, who her boyfriend was when she was 16 years old is such a small event.”


Here it is. I imagined little snippets of dialogue to fill in the blanks. I posted to Reddit thinking that would be the best place for a discussion. Here is the Reddit link. To be honest, I didn't know WTF I was doing until I discovered the meaning of the name "Odette." Then it was "Game on." Once I realized we were playing with metaphors, the allegory about the trapped prisoners occurred to me as a possible explanation for #dynasticplan. But I couldn't remember the name. I Googled "parable about trapped prisoners." Once I saw "Allegory of the Cave" come up for the search, I knew I had it. "Score!"

Let's talk about The Wizard of Oz
You know how once in a while a TV show will have it's "musical episode" that resembles the regular show but is done in a different style? Or one of the character's falls asleep and dreams everyone they know is a character from another tv show? I'm trying to just allow that the strangeness of the Rory/Logan arc is due to ASP's artistic desire as the show's creator and a lover of Frank Baum and The Wizard of Oz to run her show through this creative filter. One apsect of how this influences things is that characters seem different to us from how we remember them. Yes, they may seem out-of-character but in truth, they have not changed.  "Gilmore Girls: How Logan's family will play into the revival" November 23, 2016, quotes Matt Czuchry saying that Logan’s “carpe diem aspect and love of life” are still the core of who he is. This is an important thing to remember.

The Wizard of Oz Back Story
So Dorothy's from Kansas, while the Wizard is from Omaha originally but got stranded in Oz when his balloon landed there.  In the end Dorothy was supposed to travel with the Wizard in the hot air balloon but Toto, the little cock-blocker, runs after a cat. Dorothy runs after Toto and gets left behind while the Wizard leaves on his own.  So the Wizard and Dorothy were actually supposed to leave Oz together but fate intervened.

Logan/The Wizard
As "The Wizard of Oz" Logan was the "Man Behind the Curtain." Logan's character was purposely depicted as hidden, secret, mysterious, ambiguous. Did the joke about body parts in the closet remind anyone else of "American Psycho"?  I know many on Reddit and PreviouslyTV slammed Logan for looking to tie Rory down as his Maine-based mistress. As a character on the OS, we knew Logan as a slightly mixed moral bag. Arrogant and wealthy, he was raised with an awareness that the only person he ever needed to please was Mitchum, while Rory was the one he wanted to please. For the purposes of "The Wizard of Oz" allegory, we could not know AYITL Logan at all. We were permitted to see only one room of his apartment. Little details of his life were revealed. We saw little evidence that the Logan familiar to us still existed. We couldn't jump back and forth between SERIOUS ALLEGORY and fun banter, could we? Nope. So we got a tiny bit of sweetness during "Spring" and finally some emotions at the end of "Fall" but that's all we were allowed.

From the novel: The Wizard/The Great Oz/the terrible Oz - "never lets anyone come into his presence; can take on any form he wishes; when he is in his own form, no living person can tell; he usually has his own way." Because he fell from the sky the natives of the Emerald City assumed he was a wizard. They needed a leader and he had natural leadership abilities. The Wizard tells Dorothy that she, the Scarecrow, the Tin Man, and the Cowardly Lion are the only ones who know his "true self."

Rory was Dorothy. She was on a journey. I guess both literally (Stars Hollow to New Hampshire in Fall) and also metaphorically (a journey to finding her new "self" as her existing self was in a spiraling freefall). Rory really was lost. She gave up her apartment. Her belongings were scattered. She may or may not have been driving with a valid license. She may or may not have even owned a car. She may or may not have even been wearing underwear.  Like Dorothy, while she had her small cadre of supporters, they were not in a place to help her. Rory was constantly following deadends (Naomi Shropshire, Condé Nast, SandeeSays) and encountering potential threats (Naomi, one-night-Wookie, PsychoSandee).

From the novel: A couple of quotes from Dorothy might also help in understanding Rory's plot: "I am Dorothy, the Small and Meek. I have come to you for help." (Is this why Rory was constantly calling Logan? Like Logan was #ManBehindTheCurtain Rory was #LittleGirlLost?) "No matter how dreary and gray our homes are, we people of flesh and blood would rather live there than in any other country, be it ever so beautiful. There is no place like home." (Lorelai removed herself from that society world before you were born and now even Emily has removed herself from that "country"; you will be the only Gilmore Girl left there if you stay.)

Mitchum/Wicked Witch of the West
Mitchum was the Wicked Witch of the West. I couldn't wrap my head around why Logan would bring Rory to the Huntzberger owned restaurant. It was only when I looked at the action through the lens of the Wizard of Oz allegory that it made sense. Logan bringing Rory into "enemy territory" was the AYITL equivalent of the Wizard sending Dorothy to the Wicked Witch of the West's castle to take her broom.

From the novel: "I can still make her my slave, for she does not know how to use her power." That sounds like Mitchum all right. Manipulating Rory to get her help in keeping Logan on track for London in 6.22. Partings. Oz asks Dorothy to kill the Wicked Witch of the West.  No, I don't think Logan is going to ask Rory to off Mitchum. But, we do know from past history that Rory does have a history of challenging Mitchum to protect Logan -  like she did in 6.20 - Super Cool Party People.

Other TWOZ Characters
Stork - Paris. Obviously -the bringer of "babies"; she saves Scarecrow from River. Paris's children were a little big to be constantly referred to as "babies" weren't they?
Woman with a House - Woman with a husband and two children who lets them spend the night and talks to Dorothy about the Wizard of Oz - I guess this would be Lane.

Let's talk about the Rory/Logan arc in A Year in the Life:

Why did Logan "have to" marry?
The Huntzbergers are modeled after the Sulzbergers, the managing shareholding family of The New York Times Corporation. A family business, Art Sulzberger (publisher until 1961) had four children. They each had children. Their children had children. The company is run on an open-door policy to any family members who want a career in publishing. In fact three cousins were all vying for the job of Publisher in 2015. See "Inside the 3-Way Family Contest to Become the Next Publisher of the Times" for an interesting read on dynastic family politics.

I can actually see logic in encouraging marrying young and procreating quickly if you're born into such a family. Your kids are the next generation of heirs and corporate managers. Best to make sure they get their share before the there's no more slices of pie remaining. The more children you have the more power and influence your branch of the family will have on the company.

NOTE: This is my logic. Aside from Logan's comment in "How Many Kropogs to Cape Cod," "Yeah. The extended family's been pretty busy procreating lately" we never heard anything else that tied into this idea. I think we can take a hint from the name of Paris' business, "Dynasty Makers." It is rather an odd name for a fertility company, isn't it? I googled. They're usually more "cutesy." Notwithstanding any financial wheelings and dealings, ultimately what you need for a "dynasty" are descendants to carry on the family name/business.

Why did Logan "have to" marry Odette?
I really struggled with this question. We're past the era of arranged marriages.

In "Partings," Mitchum said: "Logan's love life is his business. I don't get involved." This might be true. Or it might not. I think Mitchum's a Teflon don and I wouldn't put anything past him. I don't know how often he interferes, but I do believe he had an opinion on Rory Gilmore.  See previous posts: Gilmore Girls: More on Mitchum and A Year in the Life: Spring for Rory and Logan Despite whatever Mitchum might have thought of Rory - she was a crappy journalist, self-absorbed, unwanted distraction, whatever - it never caused Logan to end things with her during the OS.

As for his mother, Logan didn't seem to give a fig about Shira's opinion in "But I'm a Gilmore:"

SHIRA: And whatever happened to that Fallon girl? I loved her. Do you talk anymore?
LOGAN: No, we don't talk! We never talked, you talked.
SHIRA: Oh, what a shame. I just loved her.
LOGAN: Okay. Let's go.

On the idea of marrying for love, Logan had this to say (in 5.19 "But I'm a Gilmore!") about his sister marrying Josh:

Logan: Okay, I'm sorry. I have to jump in here. Grandpa, we all respect you and Mom and Dad, but the bottom line here is, Honor has to be happy. Now, if she loves Josh, then –

Did this mean Logan loved Odette? It certainly didn't seem like it.

Then I thought to Google the name Odette. Lo and behold!

The name Odette is the female version of Otto, from the Old High German words "otho" and "odo", which are derived from the French word "auda" meaning "rich". Therefore, Odette is of French and Old German origin, and its meaning is "wealth".
Source: baby-name/girl/odette

Odette means wealth. (Despite feeling like I'd solved the Da Vinci code, I knew I should've Googled the name months ago; the Palladinos are #NotSubtle.)  Odette was a real (albeit faceless) person. But, more importantly, I understood now that she was a metaphor! Choosing or dropping Odette meant more than what it first appeared. Odette = Wealth.

  • Are we to take this to be symbolic?

  • Is it literal? (Did the Huntzbergers need more money?)

  • Or is it Logan's mistaken perception?

Soulkissage offered this take: Odette is literally a symbol of Logan having wealth and no freedom.

This is just the beginning: Do not underestimate the extent to which the nature of the Rory/Logan story arc was told via allegories and metaphors.

So, to carry on with the family business, or dynasty, Logan must have children. His children must have a mother. It's socially appropriate in his sphere to wed before having children, so he must marry someone at some point in order to carry out the #dynasticplan.

So how did Logan find himself engaged?

"When're you gonna get married, Logan? You know how many kids your cousins already have?" Mitchum snorted. "Your Uncle David's talking about setting up a whole wing of offices for his grandkids!"

"When are you two gonna set a date, Logan? We should get you and Odette to Dynasty Makers right after the wedding. Largest full-service fertility clinic in the Western Hemisphere. I saw a piece on 60 Minutes. Yale alum founded it. Maybe you two could have triplets. Start evening out the playing field."

I told you I don't believe Mitchum is a good person. Colin and Finn's nickname for him is The Dark Lord. That's enough for me.

So Logan caves (see what I did there? Remember it.) to the pressure and agrees to marry. He meets Odette at a gala or whatever. A year later they're engaged.

We have no idea how long this bi-national engagement had been going on; we do know Odette moves to London after Mitchum sees Logan with Rory.

Who are Odette and Paul?
Odette is literally faceless. Paul is metaphorically faceless. (Get it? No one remembers his face.) Even Rory doesn't remember him. Many viewers were outraged by the cheating. I can't tell you how little I cared about the cheating. Odette and Paul were metaphorical symbols, nothing else. They only existed to be cheated on!

Symbols of what? Could it have been to telegraph home the point that Logan and Rory were really in love? We didn't see Odette, while the Gilmores didn't "see" Paul. Maybe this was to let us know that Rory and Logan didn't "see" them either.

There could be other symbolic meanings. I had a more pop-psychology take in here earlier but then I remembered: the Palladinos are not subtle. And I am not a pop-psychologist. This rationale seems more suitable all around.

So how did Vegas come about?
I think they probably slept together once and Vegas was born. Going off past history, it was probably Rory who suggested Vegas. Logan would've hesitated for the same reasons he did in the past. Rory knew about Odette but remember Logan's reaction to the reminder "Dinner with Paul" in "Winter"? I'm not convinced Logan knew about Paul. OS Logan would've gone all "Let Me Hear Your Balalaikas Ringing Out" with jealousy but we couldn't see that type of emotion/passion from him now. It would have broke character. I noted the whole "Dinner with Paul" thing on my screen caps for "Winter" as an odd thing I just didn't understand. I think I get it now. #Allegory #ManBehindTheCurtain.

Did AYITL Rory and Logan love each other?
I say "Yes,'s complicated."

How did we know Rory loved Logan? From Emily's comment and the principle of Chekhov's gun that every element in a story must be necessary, and irrelevant elements should be removed. If Emily said it, bless her, it was the truth. We knew it wasn't Paul Rory was glowing over.

Emily: My goodness, you look absolutely radiant.
Lorelai: Well, she is a Gilmore. And 32, which helps.
Emily: I think you must be in love.

Why was Rory always on the ready to repeat the mantra "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas"? I think that was a bit "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

How did we know Logan loved Rory? This was tougher to see because #ManBehindtheCurtain. But I think it was pretty evident in the last scene. See also "Chrogan" discussion below. See also Odette and Paul discussion above.

In "Fall", what the hell happened?
Does everyone remember this scene from "Partings"?

LOGAN: Tell me not to go.
RORY: What?
LOGAN : Tell me not to get on that plane. Tell me to blow off my father, the paper, the whole Huntzberger destiny. Just tell me I can figure something else out. Just tell me not to go.
RORY: Well, I can't do that.
LOGAN : Hey, you afraid the teacher's gonna see or something?

Does everyone remember a similar scene in "Fall"?
Rory: Are you really gonna marry Odette?
Logan: That's the dynastic plan...

Logan replies to Rory's question, a slightly questioning tone in his voice. He watches her across the table, expectantly, waiting, seemingly hoping for her to say something. As we know, she doesn't.

Viewers watched as Logan continued to look expectantly at Rory. Meanwhile, Rory held her gaze towards the dance floor. Then Colin interrupted everything with Rosemary Clooney music. We saw Logan's profile and the back of Rory's head. We couldn't see her face. The theories were she missed his look. Colin interrupted before they could talk. Then, all too quickly, the moment was lost.

I never bought into any of those theories but I still couldn't figure it out.

Then I realized Rory understood what Logan was silently requesting of her. It's not until the next morning in the bed and breakfast that we're clued into her answer:

Rory: You took me on my own Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. How many girls can say that?
Logan: Didn't work though, did it?
Rory: Every ride has to end.

What was it that 'didn't work' according to Logan?

Logan wanted Rory. For keeps. We didn't understand the "Mr. Toad" exchange, but they did. Vegas be damned. He wanted the night to be special because he wanted to win her back, not to cheer her up and certainly not because he viewed it as their last time together. It wasn't about Rory becoming his mistress, although the way the Tango Club scene was filmed certainly seemed to resonate with some viewers that Logan was a potential threat.  (See A Year in the Life: Fall for Rory and Logan for a quick lesson on how to manipulate viewers response to characters through camera angles and voice pitches.)

In the end, Rory says no.

Rory: Every ride has to end.

If Rory loves Logan, why did she say no?

My original thought was this: She says no because Logan needs to have the wherewithal and emotional intelligence to take ownership of his decisions and his life.

But then I remembered, again, that I am not a pop-psychologist! And the Palladinos are #NotSubtle. Maybe it's simpler than that. Maybe it's just a matter of not wanting to enter the world of the Huntzbergers. Maybe it's simply because Dorothy doesn't want to leave Kansas for Oz? Remember: Mitchum is evil. Who would want that for a father-in-law? How about Shira for a mother-in-law? Come to think of it, Rory not telling Logan to not go to London in "Partings" came right after a Mitchum encounter, didn't it? Was he the "teacher" she feared would see?

Aside from the Huntzbergers inhabiting that world, maybe 32-year-old Rory also looks back on that period of her life when she was 21 and living in her grandparents' poolhouse with misgivings and fear of a repeat. Maybe the answer to why Rory wants to stay away from Oz is that she fears the person she will become if she's there? This topic was pretty thoroughly covered in 6.8 - Let Me Hear Your Balalaikas Ringing Out, first in her conversation with Jess, then in her argument with Logan.

JESS: What the hell is going on?
RORY: I told you. He's tired, and his family's bugging him right now.
JESS: No, no. I mean with you. What's going on with you?
RORY: What do you mean?
JESS: You know what I mean. I know you better than anyone. This isn't you.
RORY: I don't know.
JESS: What are you doing? Living at your grandparents' place, being in the DAR, no Yale...why did you drop out of Yale?!
RORY: It's complicated.
JESS: It's not! It's not complicated.
RORY: You don't know.
JESS: This isn't you. This, you going out with this jerk, with the Porsche. We made fun of guys like this.
RORY: You caught him on a bad night.
JESS: This isn't about him. Okay, screw him. What's going on with you? This isn't you, Rory. You know it isn't. What's going on?
RORY: I don't know. I don't know.

Rory sounds particulalry lost on the second "I don't know." Does 32-year-old Rory look back upon this time with the perspective of it being her "lost semester"? Or does she view it as this is how she behaved - and would thus always behave - in the upper echelon class of society?  Pushed by Jess, Rory finally acknowledges "Society!Rory" is very different from driven, focused, goal-oriented Rory; she quietly admits to him that she "doesn't know" what's going on with her. I think it's interesting (troubling?) to note how Rory answers Jess's questions about her with answers about Logan.  Despite the fact that Logan supports Rory's independence, does 21-year-old Rory lose herself a bit in her boyfriend's larger-than-life personality? While #LittleGirlLost was AYITL allegory, Season 6 Society!Rory was not. Also, it cannot be forgotten that Mitchum Huntzberger is the reason Rory dropped out of Yale in the first place.  (Although she doesn't actually say it, it is plainly obvious in her conversation with Paris in 6.5 We've Got Magic to Do.) Will he always be a trigger?

LOGAN: Good. Fine. He's doing something. Everybody in the world's doing something. More power to him.
RORY: I'm not. I mean, what am I doing? I'm living with my grandparents.
LOGAN: That's temporary. Have a drink.
RORY: Temporary can turn into forever.
LOGAN: You're not living with the Gilmore's forever.
RORY: I'm palling with my grandmother and being waited on by a maid. I come home, and my shoes are magically shined. My clothes are magically clean, ironed, and laid out. My bed is magically turned down. I'm in the DAR? I'm going to meetings and teas and cocktail parties?
LOGAN: Again, temporary. Have a drink.
RORY: And wasting my time partying and drinking, just hanging out doing nothing.
LOGAN: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't pull me into this.
RORY: I didn't say anything about you.
LOGAN: Yes, you did. Don't make me feel guilty for your drinking and partying. That's your choice. I'm not forcing you. When I ask you out, you can say no.
RORY: It's all we do.
LOGAN: It's not all we do.
RORY: It's all you do.
LOGAN: Well, it's my prerogative, you know. You're damn straight. I'm gonna party. I'm gonna do it while I have the chance because come June, my life is over.
RORY: Oh, yes, your horrible life. Let's hear about it.
LOGAN: Got a week?
RORY: You have every door open to you. You have opportunities that anyone would kill for, including me.
LOGAN: No one's stopping you from making whatever you want happen. Go into journalism. Go into politics. Be a doctor. Be a clown. Do whatever you want.
RORY: It's not as easy when it's not handed to you.
LOGAN: Really? It's all so easy for me? I don't want that life. It's forced on me. You talk about all these doors being open? All I see is one door, and I'm being pushed through it. I have no choice. You try living without options.
RORY: How hard are you fighting it?
LOGAN: I didn't tell you to quit Yale. You did that. I gave you one month, you went beyond that month, and it had nothing to do with me. It was all you. Now, you want to change? Change it, but don't blame me. Don't you dare blame me.

Logan and Rory's conversation is basically a redux of Jess and Rory's conversation. Only much, much more. Rory reiterates the point that she is uncomfortable with what her life has become. She rejects the life, using the adjective "magical" multiple times. Unlike, Jess who rails at her, Logan assures her that it is all "temporary." He further assures her that she won't be living with the Gilmores forever. You just know that he has an unsaid expectation that one day she'll live with him. Then, similar to how the conversation with Jess switched back and forth from being about Rory to being about Logan, so too did this conversation.

Between the talk with Jess and the fight with Logan, Rory is spurred into action. By 6.9 - The Prodigal Daughter Returns she has moved out of the Gilmores' house, secured a job with the Huntzberger-owned Stamford Gazette, set the wheels in motion for her return to Yale, and made up with Lorelai.

Is Rory Logan's salvation?  Salvation may seem a strong word, but it's not mine. Dan Palladino said just that: in "Gilmore Girls: How Logan's family will play into the revival." November 23, 2016:

"He's (Logan) a really strong guy who never really realized how trapped he was by his family and by his father. We always saw Logan as looking to Rory for salvation because he knew that his family did not want him to be with her."

Originally I interpreted the above quote to mean "Rory = Salvation because Huntzbergers don't like Rory."

BUT then I realized it should probably be taken more literally.

"Rory = Salvation because Huntzbergers do not want Logan with Rory."

So, why would the Huntzbergers not want Logan to be with Rory?

For Shira, I believe the answer is simple. Like Shira, herself. For Shira, Rory's illegitimate birth status, and the fact that she was raised outside their social sphere, and that the Gilmores just don't have as many millions as the Huntzbergers do is enough. See Gilmore Girls: The Huntzbergers' Attitude Towards Rory, Seasons 5 and 6.

For Mitchum, it's a bit more complicated. Rory has challenged Mitchum in the past, especially when it comes to Logan. Similarly, Logan has demonstrated that he will choose Rory over his family and over HPG "obligations".  Mitchum, as someone who very much wants his son under his control, perhaps having Rory around would introduce a level of unpredictability that he is not comfortable with. When she's not playing the role of #LittleGirlLost, an opinionated and determined Rory can be a force to be reckoned with.

Remember this?  From 6.20, Super Cool Party People.

Rory: Mitchum Huntzberger? Yes, it's Rory Gilmore. I just thought I'd call and remind you that Logan is lying in a hospital bed with a partially collapsed lung and a whole host of other potentially life-threatening injuries. And I'm figuring a guy like you, surrounded by nothing but a bunch of terrified sycophants might not have someone in his life with the guts to tell him what an incredibly selfish, narcissistic ass he's being, so I thought I'd jump on in. Swallow your pride, get in your car, and come down here and see your son, now!

Do you think the faceless Odette would have the nerve to call out Mitchum like that?

See previous posts Gilmore Girls: More on Mitchum and A Year in the Life: Spring for Rory and Logan

See also more recent post Breakfast at Tiffany's Parallels to Gilmore Girls and GG: A Year in the Life. The parallels between Rory and Holly Golightly hint strongly to the fact that Rory's fear is that she will be "trapped" by her relationship with Logan.

Let's talk about "Chrogan"
I know very few of us believe the Logan = Christopher trope. Yes, the similarities are mostly superficial (e.g., they both call Rory "kiddo", both got kicked out of prep school (after Logan's school history was retconned), both get jealous at other guys, both use hair products, etc.), but it is something that has been deliberately done over the years. The creators WANT viewers to make that connection. Sorry. It's true. You may argue it but accept it is a connection the show's writers want you to understand. One of the first things Christopher says to Rory when she enters his office is to observe that her manner seems "formal." Did that comment remind you of someone? It echoed Logan making a similar observation in 5.14 Say Something.

But maybe these little pings are not to drill home the point that they're similar. Maybe we're just supposed to think of them in comparison to one another? Maybe it was realized at some point (years ago!) that it would be helpful if Christopher brought Logan to mind. Maybe #ManBehindTheCurtain is the reason. Since we have so little insight into Logan, Christopher is effectively used as a proxy for Logan in "Fall." Let's call it "Chrogan".

Rory: So, new office
Chris: Yes, the cave.
Rory: The cave?
Chris: I call it the cave 'cause I caved. I'm working in the family biz.
Rory: Well it looks good on you. New suit, sitting behind that desk
Chris: Knife to the heart, kid. Knife to the heart.

  • First, don't even get me started on how nonsensical it is for software developer who inherited a ton of money in Season 6 to have to "cave" to do anything for a paycheck.

  • Second, don't remind me how his grandfather died in Season 6. His father died in Season 5. Straub Hayden was an international lawyer while Christopher never completed college, much less law school.  What  –whose - family business is he working for?  This, too, is nonsensical.

  • But then I shrugged. It is nonsensical. The Palladinos know this. It makes no sense because it's not about Christopher; it's about Logan.

The word "cave" is used four times, including once by Rory. Does Christopher's bright, airy office with big windows and trees outside look like a cave? No. But who does look like he's working in a dark cave-like atmosphere? Logan. Who truly works for the "family biz"? Logan. Who truly was served with a "knife to the heart"? Not once but twice? (If we're talking marriage proposals, I'll go with 7.21 - Unto the Breach and "Fall"; if we're not talking proposals, I'll go with 6.22 - Partings and "Fall." The two times Logan basically beseeched Rory to throw him a metaphorical rope -by asking him not to do the thing deep down he didn't want to do- and she didn't.).  I think, like Emily calling Rory out on being in love with Logan, Chrogan's comment here let's us know Logan is still in love with Rory.

Speaking of caves, finally I realized there was a second allegory in AYITL

The Allegory of the Cave.
I recommend anyone interested look it up. It's from Socrates and the idea is that people can be prisoners – trapped- by their own perceptions even if in reality they are free. It resonates back to Logan and his mistaken belief that he cannot make decisions based on his own happiness. He believes he must marry Odette (Remember "Odette = Wealth.") In his mind, he believes that there is no alternative. He cannot choose another path. The only person capable of freeing him or of providing him with salvation is Rory ("Rory = Salvation.")

Logan from "Let Me Hear Your Balalaikas Ringing Out":
LOGAN: Really? It's all so easy for me? I don't want that life. It's forced on me. You talk about all these doors being open? All I see is one door, and I'm being pushed through it. I have no choice. You try living without options.

So I'm reading The Wizard of Oz and I had another epiphany. At first the cave allegory devastated me.

BUT then, I realized the following:

  • Leaving the Rory/Logan arc at TWOZ brings it to a hard stop. Dorothy goes back to Kansas while the Wizard flies off in his hot air balloon.

  • The Cave Allegory opens up a whole new set of circumstances, challenges, opportunities and hope for salvation.

  • Remember Checkov’s gun? Everything is there for a reason. The possibility for hope is there for a reason.

  • As Soulkissage pointed out, Logan has a track record of actively choosing Rory over his family

In the cave allegory, the smart prisoner figures out the truth. He escapes the cave and finds the outside world and discovers the sun. As Twister88 so wonderfully pointed out the baby is a light outside the cave, something to move towards to follow outside.

Let’s Talk More About Chrogan
Maybe we need to consider Chrogan as flip sides of coin. Partially the same, partially different. Yes, they do have similarities but in many ways they are very different. As I mentioned before, maybe they needed to project “Logan = Christopher” so we’d know where to look for clues when we couldn’t get any from Logan. Check out the dialogue snippets below. I think we all agree Rory was thinking about Logan during her talk with Christopher, right?

Rory: And how's Lana? Are you two still together?
Chris: Why not? How are you?
Rory: Mom and Luke are getting married. Did she tell you?
Chris: I'm not real good at keeping up with e-mail. So, maybe.
Rory: Well, it's a town thing, and I thought you should know, - but I'm kind of hoping you won't –
Chris: Show up? I won't. Knowing when to admit defeat is one of my better qualities. I wish her all the happiness in the world.

After the emotional time Rory just spent with Logan, I can't believe Christopher’s flippant “why not?” reply about his girlfriend makes her see him as similar to Logan. I certainly didn't see that. Chris is not good with keeping up with email. Who was answering the phone at 2:00 am when Rory called? Yes, Christopher knew when to admit defeat. Logan lost Rory several times in the past, now all this time has passed and he’s trying again.

Chris: Is she registered?
Rory: As what?
Chris: For gifts. I have a crazy expense account here. I can get anything. Does she have a unicorn?
Rory: Shoot! She got one yesterday.
Chris: I'll think of something else. So, is that what the big news is? The wedding?
Rory: I'm switching gears a little. Career-wise. The journalism thing didn't really pan out the way I hoped.
Chris: Sorry, kid. Do you need some money?
Rory: No.
Chris: You sure? 'Cause I have some. I have no idea what to do with it. I bought this suit and every color of Beats by Dre.

This part of their conversation allows for some of their similarities. Big Gifts. Money. And differences. Christopher’s response to her career disappointment is pretty non-supportive emotionally, but impersonally practical (money). Logan – even with the constraints of #ManBehindTheCurtain was always interested in talking her through her problems. He even read PsychoSandee’s website.

Ultimately, there is one major difference between them. Let's let the Gilmore moms clarify that difference.

Photo 1: Emily talking to Christopher in 5.12 - Come Home when she convinces him to make a play for Lorelai at the vow renewal ceremony. Christopher is "weak."
Photo 2: Lorelai talking to Logan in 6.12 - Just Like Gwen and Gavin when he convinces her to write a letter to Rory advocating on his behalf. Logan has "moxie."

Get it? The similarities between Christopher and Logan run skin-deep. They are one-dimensional. Perfunctory. Christopher and Logan are very different people. And very different men.  Read those Gilmore eyes: You can tell Emily has absolutely no respect for Christopher, while Lorelai recognizes Logan as a worthy opponent.
Practically speaking the two men could be confronted with the same set of circumstances but it would be utterly illogical to expect them to react in the same way. For that matter, the same could be said of Lorelai and Rory.

Is Rory a Clone of Lorelai? Or is she a Clone of Christopher?
Once I realized how much nonsense was infused into the Chrogan conversation, in terms of the Chris/Logan comparison, I realized that the Lorelai/Rory comparisons were pretty off too. Is Rory really that much like Lorelai? I think the part of the conversation when they talked about Christopher and Lorelai dealing with the unexpected pregnancy needs to be read in a very specific way.

Rory: Sorry, I just have to know. How did you feel? What did you feel?
Chris: Your mom did what she wanted to do. I really wasn't consulted.
Rory: I know, but you let her do it.
Chris: I did. I I let her do it.
Rory: So, now, all these years later, how do you feel about that?
Chris: It was in the cards. Lorelai and you, from the first moment I saw you two together, no one was getting between you guys. Maybe that's why she's getting married now. You're grown. Her job is done. Now she can let someone else in.
Rory: So she didn't let you in?
Chris: I'm not saying that.
Rory: Is that why you weren't there? Because she made the decision and she pushed you away?
Chris: No, not at all. We were just so young. I was so young, and Lorelai was, much like yourself, she was a force of nature. Just uncontrollable. Sure about everything. I couldn't come close to competing with that, so I didn't.
Rory: You could've fought her on it. You could've talked her out of it.
Chris: You ever try talking her out of anything?
Rory: But do you think it was the right decision that she raised me alone?
Chris: I think it was exactly what was supposed to happen. And I think she'd back me up on that.
Rory: Yep. I think she would, too.

There’s so much here and I admit it’s overwhelming trying to parse out what MEANS SOMETHING and what is just there. I think I got some of it though. You have to read it for the sub-text, not just the literal word on the page. There are two conversations happening here and you need to know when to jettison the "nonsense":

  • Rory knows she’s not a “force of nature” or “uncontrollable” or “sure about everything.” We know it. She knows it. Who is a "force of nature" and "sure about everything"?  Logan. Viewers know Rory's never been particularly good with talking Logan out of anything. When the chips are down, Logan wins the debates. Do you honestly think Logan -who despite the AYITL stylized characterization of #ManBehindTheCurtain is still the same Logan - is not going to want Rory to marry him once he knows she's pregnant with their baby? I'm pretty sure Rory knows it.

  • On Reddit some posters have made the observation that Logan is actually more like Lorelai while Rory is more like Christopher. If you have that thought in mind, and, if Rory has that thought in mind, the way you read the conversation flips.

  • While we are witnessing a replay of the accidental pregnancy circumstances similar to what occurred at Rory's birth, the personalities involved are very different! Reread the conversation above and substitute "Logan" every time it's about Lorelai, and "Rory" for every time it's about Chris. I think Rory has serious reservations about marrying Logan (because #EvilHuntzbergers, #LiveInACave, not because she doesn't love him) but she knows he's the dominant one in their relationship and he's likely to get his way. She wants Chris to confirm for her that she will, like he was, be okay with the decision made by the more dominant partner.

  • Chris reassures Rory that what happened was "in the cards" and "exactly what was supposed to happen." Saying this is pretty similar to saying something was "written in the stars."  (See Predictions for a Rogan Ending? below)

  • Disregard  whatever transpired between Lorelai and Chris in 7.14, "I Farewell, My Pet." #S7BobbyEwing

What Does "Full Circle" Refer to?

  1. Does it refer simply to the fact that we're seeing a replay of the accidental pregnancy circumstances that surrounded Rory's birth? Again, see above.

  2. Does it refer to Rory's return to the social sphere of the wealthy and entitled that her mother, Lorelai, renounced? Rosemary Clooney is mentioned and played at the (now former) Tango Club in "Fall." The only other time she is mentioned on the show is by Lorelai during her dinner with Luke on 5.8 - The Party's Over. This episode, of course, was the one in which Richard and Emily introduce Rory - adorned in diamonds, including diamond tiara - to the Yale boys.  (This would also tie into that theory about Rory/Logan being more like Emily/Richard than Lorelai/Luke.  See Comments for more on that.)  It occurred to me that Luke and Lorelai remaining childless is also a necessary ingredient to fulfilling this interpretation of "full circle". If L/L had other kids, happily "normal" middle class kids - then the fact that Rory was vanquished to Oz wouldn't resonate as such a bitter pill to swallow. But for all Lorelai's hard work, pulling herself up by her bootstraps to establish a solid middle class existence for her progeny, it only lasts one generation, one child (Rory) who loses her place in this world her mother created and has to return to the other world, the one her mother fled. When Lorelai leaves the world of Emily and Richard, she does so of her own accord; the accidental pregnancy forces Rory's hand. Lorelai loses her daughter in the same way Emily lost her daughter. The other piece to remember, is that the AYITL ending is what was originally intended for the OS ending. Check out the (ten-years-delayed) foreshadowing from 6.7 Twenty-One is the Loneliest Number.

RICHARD: That doesn't matter, Emily. We have lost her.
RICHARD: We've failed.
EMILY: No! We have not failed. We have not failed until that girl comes home pregnant. Then we've failed!
LORELAI: And on that note...
EMILY: Richard, I don't understand what's happening. Everything's been fine except the sex issue.
RICHARD: Everything hasn't been fine. The minute we went against Lorelai, we lost.
EMILY: You're acting like this is my fault. Going against Lorelai was your idea. I was perfectly ready to go ahead with the plan that the three of us devised.
RICHARD: Running around with Logan, joining the DAR, planning parties.
EMILY: What's wrong with joining the DAR? We both agreed she needed a job.
RICHARD: Fund-raisers and tea parties? It's frivolous and meaningless. She has more to do, more to be. I don't want that life for her.
EMILY: You mean my life. You don't want her to be me.
RICHARD: Emily, no. That's not what I meant.

Richard and Emily have vastly different ideas of what constitutes "failure." Richard doesn't want to see Rory give up on her career track. He doesn't want to see her limited to a life that is, in his words, "frivolous and meaningless." Emily, meanwhile, just doesn't want Rory to wind up pregnant like Lorelai did. Lorelai probably agrees with both of them.

Amy Sherman-Palladino had this to say in "Gilmore Girls ending discussed by show creators," December 1, 2016. "Originally it was going to be that she was 22, just getting out of college and heading off to get a master’s somewhere — Oxford or whatever those smart people do. It’s interesting because we went in breaking these [episodes] on their own merit, feeling like if the last four words work, great. If they don’t, then we don’t use them. And interestingly enough, her being the same age as Lorelai [when the show began] turned out to be much better. I still wanted the element of history repeats itself — the daughter following in the mother’s footsteps — and I think that would’ve worked in either age range."

The AYITL ending received a lot of criticism for telling stories - one reviewer described it as "uterus to uterus." The fact that Rory was allowed to have ten years as a journalist before becoming pregnant was "better." And, the fact that she's already left journalism and career-transitioned into writing books - something she can do anywhere - also makes it "better."

Those 11 Last Words
A few things. For a true “The Wizard of Oz” ending, Dorothy returns to Kansas for good. Do you remember the mantra?

There’s no place like home.
There’s no place like home.
There’s no place like home.

Rory is now back in Stars Hollow. She just landed there after a rather tumultuous time. Sitting in the gazebo with Lorelai she is acknowledging how she might’ve offended Paul #ImJustAMetaphor but whatever.

Rory [reading]: "Rory, due to our ever-conflicting schedules, I think we should break up. Take care, Paul."
Lorelai: Who?
Rory: I can't believe how I treated him. I suck.
Lorelai: No, you don't. It didn't fit. It needs to fit. Believe me. He'll find someone amazing one day.
Rory: Yeah.
Lorelai: And so will you. Hey. What's going on in there?
Rory: I wanna remember it all. Every detail. Mom.
Lorelai: Yeah?
Rory: I'm pregnant.

“I wanna remember it all. Every detail.” Why did Rory say that? It sounds like a wistful Dorothy knows she’s going to be leaving Kansas again, doesn’t it? And for a very long time this time.

Predictions for a Rogan Ending?
One commenter said that if I was going to pick out all the bad, I should also pick out the good. I wasn’t deliberately trying to pick out only the bad and not say anything about the good; it just was easier to spot the bad and tougher to spot the good so it took much, much longer. I have now added the good.

The Baby
Yes, it was foreshadowed in the AYITL and GG that Logan and Rory would have a baby. In looking at the dialogue again, I’m seeing the “Fall” mention might've even given the “oops” “happy” accident nature of the pregnancy away. That is a reassuring confirmation since we never actually saw Rory happy because she was too busy being pensive about the imminent change to her life.

From “How Many Kropogs to Cape Cod?”
EMILY: Richard! Picture his blond hair and her blue eyes on a little baby!
RICHARD: Incomparable!

From: “But Not as Cute as Pushkin”
LORELAI: Do you think he's cute?
RORY: It doesn't matter if I think he's cute.
LORELAI: Uh, it matters to me. I don't want ugly grandchildren.

From: “Fall”
Rory: I'm happy. Oops, hold on.
Logan: What?
Rory: Oh, uh I thought the baby was gonna throw up.
Logan: Your life change since I last saw you?

Logan picks up a tray of Bottle Pops candy from Doose’s.

Finn refers to Rory as "Mother" at the bed and breakfast.

The Marriage?
Yes, it was foreshadowed in GG that Logan and Rory would marry. I wasn’t going to include this because my interest has been to decipher AYITL, not necessarily talk about the OS. I only mentioned scenes from the OS when I needed to. But since I think I deciphered the "full circle" conversation between Chris and Rory, these suddenly become relevant.  Guest and I both noticed the odd word choice. There really wasn’t a need for Logan to tack on the “you are” at the end.

From: “But I'm a Gilmore!”
Logan: Josh isn't marrying the heir to the Huntzberger fortune, you are. I've got to get out of here.

Now that I see that line again, those two sentences pretty much seem to confirm the idea that "Rory = Salvation." (Marrying Rory would offer a way out.)

Even Richard gave his blessing back in "But Not as Cute as Pushkin."  Logan never corrects him about not marrying Rory. The only sentence or complete thought he manages to get out is agreeing with Richard that professing his love for Rory in the classroom was inappropriate.

RICHARD: Well, my boys, nice to see you. Logan, I wanted to talk to you. I just heard about the incident.
RICHARD: I heard that you professed your feelings for Rory.
LOGAN: What?
RICHARD: Mr. Bell is a very dear friend of mine. As is the Dean of Admissions. Well, you know this place. News travels fast.
LOGAN: Yeah, look . . .
RICHARD: I have to tell you that while I understand what could have driven you to such a public display of affection, there is a proper time and place for that sort of thing. And a classroom in the middle of class is not one of them.
LOGAN: No, I know. I --
RICHARD: However, what's done is done. It's out. So I've dropped by to tell you that I've spoken to your father.
LOGAN: My father?
RICHARD: We pounded out a few things. Property agreements, pre-nups, that sort of thing.
LOGAN: Ok, I think there's been . . .
RICHARD: Oh, we came to a very fair agreement. I'm sure you'll be pleased. Now, we're setting up a dinner for next week to finalize the engagement and start talking about the ceremony. Emily is handling all the newspaper announcements, so not to worry. That's all taken care of.
LOGAN: But --
RICHARD: She is a fine young lady, Logan. I want her to be happy. You'll take care of that, I assume. All right, I'll let you get back to your coffee break. Nice seeing all of you again. And Logan, welcome to the family, son.

The episode in which Rory and Logan meet is called "Written in the Stars."

Their first kiss is at Richard and Emily's vow renewal.

Jess as Rory's "Luke"
I'm thinking the Jess look in the window was to telegraph the idea that Rory could've wound up with Jess -like it could've been an alternative -if she been more like her mother and Logan actually been more like Christopher. Again that idea -Logan and Christopher are not similar but we're supposed to compare them. Jess being Rory's Luke doesn't mean anything if Rory is not Jess's Lorelai.

Married Future?
The commenter, Guest, and Soulkissage both had similar observations that may point to the couple’s future:

“I really think Martha's Vineyard was an episode foreshadowing the future for both couples. Luke and Lorelai will always have communication issues and Rory and Logan will always have to balance their relationship with Logan's battle against Mitchum. "These could be the ones."”

“It's interesting because Rory is really a choice OS Logan makes, a choice that isn't about accepting or rejecting his family. I mean at first anyway. She's a choice he makes for himself. And Logan is shocked that his family doesn't like her. It's not even something Logan gave a thought to. But when he comes back after clearing his head and he takes her to get something to eat, he actively chooses Rory over his family. And that is when Mitchum physically comes to Rory with the internship. Mitchum is always making his physical presence known.”

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There is a lot of marriage references for Rory and for Rory and Logan in the OS. I think maybe it was always in the Cards that Rory would have to have a try at her Grandparents life. And money isn't just the thing that made up their lives. It was their marriage and the role of marriage in Emily's life. While Lorelai didn't get married. Sure she's married now but she's almost 50. Being a single woman is what Lorelai knows. And Rory has never really been a single woman. Being paired up seems to have always been a part of Rory's story. Rory is always a part of #teamguy. The same as Emily. And Lorelai and Rory even talk about getting Rory married off in that last gazebo conversation.

Outstanding Questions:

1) Why was Rory so sure Lorelai knew about her relationship with Logan?
2) Any significance to "Didi" or "Deedee"?
3) Mitchum's "shiv in my back" comment? Refers back to S6 "Partings"?
4) Is Chrogan a character Dorothy encounters in Oz?
5) Use of the word "geisha"?

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From (I always check this dictionary if I don't understand what the young people I work with, talk about :) )

A person who is always there when you need them. A strong survivor who can make it through anything. She is always making you laugh or joking around with you. You always have a good time when you are with her, even if she is making fun of you. She goes through tough times in life, but she never lets you see her down. She is always strong for everyone, and doesn't like to bring people down. She is an amazing runner, and anyone would be lucky to be like her. She is a beautiful and courageous role model. A person you look up to forever and you hope that you maintain a close friendship with forever. You don't know what you would do if you lost them. They bring you closer to all the things you need to be doing in life. She puts you on the right path. She gets you to be stronger in your faith. She is your hero.


Could this be the significance of "Geisha"?

This has to do with the theory that Rory/Logan = Emily/Richard. In 5.1, Emily and Richard fight with Emily winding up climbing out the basement window. Anyway, this did resonate as a potential parallel to Rory's "geisha" comment, especially in conjunction with a comment made in 5.3, Written in the Stars (the episode during which Logan and Rory meet for the first time.) The parallel has Richard and Emily fighting, including an insinuation that Emily is a "prostitute." While the word "geisha" is not used, Lorelai does use it two episodes later in Richard's presence. I shrugged the prostitute fight off as a coincidence until the mention of "geisha" in 5.3. It's an odd word choice and according to Stars Hollow Online, it's the only time "geisha" was ever uttered in the original series. Now I'm wondering if Rory saying "soul mate" in 5.3 is also significant..?

5.1: Say Goodbye to Daisy Miller
RICHARD: Only prostitutes have two glasses of wine at lunch.
EMILY: Well, then buy me a boa and drive me to Reno because I am open for business.
RICHARD: I-- I can't talk to you when you're like this. I'm going to bed.

5.3: Written in the Stars
RICHARD: His name is Robert.
LORELAI: I thought every butler's name was Jeeves.
RICHARD: He's not a butler. He's a valet.
LORELAI: So he parks your car?
RICHARD: No, he does not park my car. He does exactly what you see him doing.
LORELAI: So he is a bartender.
RICHARD: He attends to my needs.
LORELAI: So he's a geisha.
RICHARD: You'll be quieter once you have a drink, I assume.

Rory: So now you want me to just wait in a hotel until you can slip away and come see me?
Logan: No.
Rory: Like I'm a geisha?
Logan: Come on, that's not fair.

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Re: Could this be the significance of "Geisha"?

I think the geisha thing is also from Breakfast at Tiffany's. Here is a link I found. The gif, something Paul said, parallels with something Logan would say: I don't wan to put you in a cage, I want to love you.

I am going to watch the movie in few hours. I already opened the wine for that :)

Do you think there is a reason for all the keys in fall? Rory is unlocking locks, she has a key on her hat and Logan's the key master. And I guess "time" is a big thing too. Logan has clockwork gears, lots of actual saying the word time and Colin has a pocket watch. I know some of it is the steampunk look. So that's why I'm asking.

I did not notice the keys thing - aside from the discussion re: the Maine house and the discussion re: the B&B rooms

Time - I did notice some things about the way time was treated. I will probably add a section on time.

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Since there is a lot of talking here about these,

Here are free Oz books

Here's the Breakfast at Tiffany's movie transcript

Here's the first little bit of the Breakfast at tiffany's novel

I love you theory and analysis and you've concisely and thoughtfully put thoughts, so similar to my own, on the page, so I thank you.

I wonder what your thoughts are on where Rory is going (geographically) at the end of Fall? In all of the analysis of the episode I've read there's one comment that I'm surprised doesn't come up - When she is walking into Doose's, just before she runs into Dean, she is on the phone and she references packing or moving (I don't remember exactly). At the end I was surprised her moving was not addressed, especially in light of the final four words? But that comment, coupled with her saying she wants to remember everything, suggested to me that she's going far away (London to be with Logan?) and for someone who is clearly not at ease about impending motherhood I can't imagine she's moving to Queens to be a single mom...thoughts?

Also if Jess is Rory's anyone, I think he's her Sookie. Good friends/confidants and future business partners. I could see them being very successful in the publishing business as business partners and I think that Logan has grown past that season 6 jealousy and that Jess would value Logans business acumen and thus be friends even if they are in similar, occasionally embattled fields. Think of Luke and Sookies friendly sparring over the diner vs. her restaurant over the course of the OS, can't you kind of see that scenario with Logan and Jess?

Thank you!

She is on the phone with Lorelai as she enters the shop. She just says: "ok Iam moving, but I have a million things to do as well.." I always thought she meant just that "I am on the move", running around for stuff to get. But wouldn't she just say then that "Im just entering Doose´s, tell me what you need" or something like that... On the other hand, would Lorelai want to know where she is moving to? If Lorelai would know that Rory is moving to London they would have a totally different talk at the Gazebo later... ugh I don't know... I´d like to buy your idea but I am not sure... I thought the "I want to remember it all.." was about Logan, not of SH.


Looking back I can't believe I didn't see the baby and marriage even with all the signs in and out of the show. I mean going back to at least the end of s5, Amy&Dan were saying Logan could be the boy Rory marries and then there is the marriage stuff in the show. Why mention marriage for a 20/21-year-old girl? And all the Rory&Logan Emily&Richard and Shiva&Mitchum. I mean why have Emily go after Shiva and the Mitchum&Richard confrontation?

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I think Rory sees the trappings and trapped nature of the responsibilities of the rich world as fantasy or Oz-like. It's beautiful and fun but has a negative undercurrent. Rory can easily lose herself even when she knows she has choices. She was raised with choices. She just isn't a force of nature like people she surrounds herself with. I mean it took both Jess reminding her who she was and Logan yelling she had choices to get her to be pro-active in the OS. In the Revival, Jess gave her the book idea but she didn't write until after Logan told her it was time. And then it wasn't Stars Hollow that she wrote, it was at her Grandparents house.

And imo Full circle is Rory getting Pregnant and ending up in a world her mother questions. Just like with Lorelai&Emily. And Rory is such a mama's girl how that affects her and their relationship.

I think Jess will be used to question Rory and Logan's stability and fidelity. That was the way he was used in 6.8 and 6.18. I mean he was also used as a straight shooter reminding Rory of how she used to be and get her thinking and he has a bit of a guest star Mary Sueing to his character. But pretty much I think the big thing Jess was brought in to test. Jess could have feelings for Rory but it doesn't matter because Rory loves Logan (and now she'll have his child). So will Logan react to Rory showing signs of instability again by engaging in risky behavior? That's to be decided.

Amy tested Emily&Richard using Richard's former fiancee but faceless Odette wouldn't be used for that. I personally don't think an Odette or Paul would have been characters in the OS. I think it's another reason they are "faceless".

Rory and Logan might have a different outcome than Richard and Emily but they could also find a way to be honest with each other. They aren't exactly talkers but they find a way back to each other. And their love for each other kind of brings out the moxie in each other. Logan visiting Lorelai and Rory ordering Mitchum to see Logan.

By the way, I love all the work you are putting into this. Even if I end up disagreeing at the end of the day (since this is a long piece and you are still in research mode), it's been a nice journey. And I'm looking forward to reading what's to come. Now we just need to get you an interview with Amy. Real questions and a true conversation about how she sees her characters would be great.

I was reading Reddit and some of this was going into a comment but I'm taking it here instead...

Rory wants Logan but doesn't want to pay? She wants to play house with him but isn't ready to commit. He's ready or at least needs to be ready because the family expects it. But she wants the status quo.

Maybe Rory loves Logan but he's not just trapped in the cave in his mind, he's trapped there in her mind? Logan comes to show her that he can give her the freedom of stars Hollow, the fun of the Life&death Brigade, Security to write what she wants and a promise to be her family (he takes her to a wannabe Dragonfly inn and planned on taking her to a Diner like Luke's). In its own way, this perfect night was the proposal that s7's should have been (without an actual proposal of course). Logan is laying in out there for her. She can't say yes. All she sees is the dynastic plan. Here it's represented by marriage to faceless Odette but pretty much it's being trapped in the world of wealth and no freedom. Or a place where magic can happen but it comes with a cost. For Rory, she thinks she loses her ability to be open and honest with Lorelai and the freedom to create her own path. Pretty much Logan is offering her commitment but she's not ready. At this time Rory is looking for more Freedom, The freedom that she had in her childhood. She was safe and loved and happy and the whole world was open and out there. Though in the OS it probably would have been more career focused.

Though there is also maybe the fear Logan must grow up so there is the uncertainty of what life with an adult Logan would be like. Emily&Richard or Mitchum&Shiva? And in the OS there would have been the fear of what if Logan doesn't really grow up, could he be like Christopher? Lots of things for Rory to be thinking about.

I've been meaning to ask you do you think there is any significance to Mr Toad? He's kind of a WOZ like figure but I can see the Logan about him as well. Even if I've never read the book to know what actually happened.

Rory Gilmore: What Makes Her Tick?

Thank you! Yes, please help me peel the Rory Gilmore onion. Thanks for commenting here. Trying to ween myself off Reddit.

I'm doing AYITL Rory scene rewatch #5. I think each clue I find adds to my understanding. I'm still updating this and the episode screen-caps.

Rory has proven the hardest to understand. OS Rory was an enigma. She went along with the stronger personalities - Lorelai, Logan, Paris. She was smart and quick-witted but also impractical and not always focused on the important stuff. On the OS, this was fanwaved under "special snowflake" - most things worked out for her and everyone still thought she was wonderful - but a 180º turnaround happened in AYITL. Suddenly folks were calling it like it was:

LORELAI: For now she's Jack Kerouac. She's On the Road-ing it. Pass the peyote.
EMILY: But after you've passed the peyote, what bathroom will you use to throw up in?
RORY: Well, I have many options. Paris lets me stay with her in New York. Or I can stay with Mom, Lane or you.
EMILY: So you're homeless.
RORY: I am not homeless.
EMILY: But you don't live anyplace.
RORY: Just for now.

Charleston: We all go through bad stretches.
Rory: Oh. No, I'm not going through a bad stretch.
Charleston: Then my language was too strong. It's just that when I hear that someone of your caliber is living here and there, I wonder if I can be of assistance.
Rory: I appreciate it, but I don't think teaching's my future. But thank you so much.

I think you hit upon something I've been starting to suspect: "The Allegory of the Cave" doesn't just apply to Logan and his inability to see anything (except Rory!) beyond the #dynastic plan; Rory is caught up in it, too. She can only see a future with Logan that takes her freedom away and leaves her powerless.

When Rory says "So she didn't let you in?" to Chris, I really believe she's asking "Will Logan let me out?"

This is where I also just wonder - with all the metaphors, TWOZ, Cave, etc. - are there just pieces of this puzzle that do not easily flow into a character depiction that makes sense? Rory dated Logan for a while. While he would definitely prod her, cajole her, and debate her, he also, more than anyone else, let her be herself. He always supported her career aspirations and her independence. I don't think he'd be interested in a woman like his mother. Rory's more amusing to him when she's got stuff going on. Why would he want her locked up in a cage? Less metaphorically, why would he want to tether her to doing things she doesn't want to do? That's the #1 benefit of having money! You can pay others to do the things you don't want to do!

EDIT: I think I realized the meaning of Logan "air" framing Rory at the NH inn; it was a visual of him placing her in a "cage".

That Christopher/Logan parallel. I only saw it as superficial. I'm surprised so many on Reddit take it as gospel. Yes, it was mentioned in a couple of interviews, but how are the two similar on AYITL? Maybe younger Logan seemed more like Chris, but I still think Logan always had a stronger character, which would serve him well, in the end, with a Gilmore girl.

As for Mr. Toad, "narcissistic, self-centred almost to the point of sociopathy" was concerning until I got to "Ultimately, Toad has his heart in the right place...arguably the epitome of the...lovable rogue." Logan was always a mixed bag. He's an "anti-hero." No, he's not perfect. Who is? Logan's imperfect nature is something the revival played up. Considering how little screen time he had - it was amazing how polarized viewers opinions were! That was deliberate. I tried to deconstruct it here:

From Wikipedia, I noted that Mr. Toad enjoys hot air ballooning. The Wizard of Oz built his own hot air balloon. When I came to that part in the book, I recalled this line from We Got Us a Pippi Virgin:

LUKE: Pippi is strong and independent. She can lift a horse above her head. Uh-huh. And beat up bullies and build a hot-air balloon. She's unique, like Rory. But I guarantee you, if Pippi had met Dean, there would be no horse, no balloons. He'd drag her down to his level, spend all her gold coins, and poof, like that, all her dreams would be gone.

Maybe Luke was Team Logan too, but didn't realize it?

Edited at 2017-04-20 11:14 am (UTC)

Rory is a Lost Human Being

While I appreciate your in-depth analysis and all of the thought you've put into this, I have another theory (or additional commentary) that I think is worth considering.

You keep mentioning that Rory is afraid to choose Logan because of the Huntzberger dynasty and all that that entails. But I think you're missing a HUGE plot point. After "But I'm a Gilmore," when Logan's family eviscerated Rory for her lack of societal upbringing, Rory still chose Logan, and she continued to choose him for two more years after that incident; even after Mitchum interrupts their Valentine's Day weekend and drags Logan away to London.

When Rory is uncertain about her future or when she doesn't feel like she is in control - that's when she "rejects" Logan. She didn't accept his proposal in S7 because she hasn't had time to discover who she was yet. She hadn't had time to develop her career and find success, and in her mind, Logan would have hindered that growth because he's always been a bit of a crutch for her. I wasn't thrilled about that, but I understand her decision.

Flash forward to the Revival and we find Rory, once again, at a point where she is completely lost in life. She has not had the successful journalism career that she once envisioned. She just lost someone incredibly important to her. She's homeless, broke and can't find her underwear. She's basically in a tailspin. And once again, she rejects Logan; not because she doesn't love him, but (I think) because she doesn't have her life figured out and she doesn't want him to be a crutch for her getting her act together. I think Lorelei's insistence on being independent, which has been ingrained in Rory, make her hesitant to rely too heavily on Logan. It's frustrating to me because Rory has never been Lorelei and there are large personality differences.

For me, Logan has always made it clear to Rory that he didn't expect her to be the trophy wife in any way. He has always supported her dreams, both in the OS and in the Revival. It is my opinion that the hangups are due to Rory's insecurity about her ability to be successful on her own.

Another thing that doesn't make a lot of sense to me is why people view Logan's future as one choice or the other. If he has Rory, then he has to reject his father and HPG. If he chooses HPG, then he can't have Rory. Why can't he have both? It has always been painfully obvious to me that Logan a) is really good at what he does b) enjoys the family business and c) has always been able to juggle both worlds. It seems like Mitchum also came to respect Rory, even in the OS, despite their rocky beginnings. He shows absolutely no animosity toward Rory during their brief meeting in the Revival. So the premise of Logan having to choose between Rory and his parents/HPG doesn't really make sense to me. He already has both, even if the dynamics of his relationship with Rory are not what he would choose (stupid Vegas agreement).

Anyways, just some thoughts that I've had. That is how I interpreted Rory's behavior in the Revival, knowing that people always see things through various lenses. Curious as to your thoughts!

Re: Rory is a Lost Human Being

I don't regard S7 as part of the canon narration. The character actions are not consistent, nor their personalities, behaviors. So I choose to just ignore aside from the factual stuff - e.g., Lorelai and Christopher married briefly, Logan proposed, Lane had twins, etc. and not extrapolate motivations from what occurred during that season.

Rory being lost in AYITL is tied to the #LittleGirlLost theme and also the "Breakfast at Tiffany's" parallel (did you see that post?) As I've written a lot on this topic, not all of the older posts are up-to-date and integrated with the more recent posts. The most recently updated ones are the "Breakfast at Tiffany" write-up and the "Winter" and "Spring" recaps. The aspect of Rory not needing Logan to save her is covered in the "Wizard of Oz" discussion.

As for the questions of why everyone views their choices of being one way or the other? That is the recurrent theme that ties back to the Allegory of the Cave; this idea that the characters (both Logan and Rory) hold mistaken perceptions of reality that they need to be overcome before they can embrace their true desires.

Edited at 2017-04-23 10:35 pm (UTC)

So do you think Odette isn't just the metaphor for wealth but for the doomed trapped bird Holly/Rory fears for themselves? If so she's a total representative of the Dynastic plan. All of Rory's fears for being married and married to Logan in general?

Now I'm thinking the LDB event was a symbol for a proposal. That is how Amy would have done Logan's proposal. I think it was an in your face season 7 writers.....

Beyond the metaphors, I think the Huntzbergers don't want Logan to marry Rory because they know what kind of girl Rory probably is. Both Lorelai and Chris ran from family obligations and responsibilities. And it embarrassed their families. Mitchum's worse nightmare. Rory wasn't raised to accept what others preplanned for her. When she finds herself going in that direction and even liking it, That is when she freaks out and runs. The only thing is Rory isn't one to make her own choices even when she is free. When she does, she and her mom fight.

Logan did care more about Rory and always chose her. The baby brings both his worlds together. Logan could have both if Rory lets him in or if he fights for her. And Rory knows or at least fears Logan isn't going to be satisfied in making her happy now. What he wants and what the baby's needs will now be at play. So I do think Rory is worried about rather Logan will let her out.

I think Rory loves Logan but she sees his acceptance of the dynastic plan as settling for what her mom ran from. It's kind of a betrayal to her mom and the dreams her mom&she had her whole life.

Just noticed Chris says "I'm not real good at keeping up with e-mail." In the OS Honour says to Logan in the first scene we see her "Since you never check your email".

Honor was his sister. I'm talking about the relationships between Logan/Rory and Chris/Lorelai. The "full circle" parallels.

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I just watched Fall again and I now think that when Logan answers Rory's "Are you really going to marry Odette" with "That's the dynastic plan". He wanted to make sure Rory understood that was why he was marrying Odette. It wasn't for love of Odette nor because he didn't love Rory. He had a responsibility to his family and Rory wasn't open to being a part of it. They both knew that was what he was saying. Logan wishes it was otherwise. That's why he continues to stare at Rory even after she pretends he didn't lay it out there.

Rory knew Logan would eventually Marry someone else, she just isn't ready. She still wants Logan and needs him. That's why she's in the Vegas agreement. Like Logan accepted his family's dynastic plan, he accepts Rory's Vegas. Until he thinks Rory might be up for more. That's when he comes to her.

That whole scene reminds us that Logan and Rory are never bored with each other which should be a sign that they work. But also with the house, cook and the maid, as well as mention of his father and Rory saying "your family life is different", it's pretty much how Rory sees herself when inside the dynastic plan. She doesn't want to talk beyond Vegas until Logan mentions her book. It reminds her that he's there for her and wants her dreams to come true. That he's not just the bad guy trapped in the cave. It's why she then asks about Odette. She really isn't ready to have Logan not be in her life. But Logan reminds her it's the dynastic plan. It's the reason they were in Vegas in the first place.

I can't believe I never put together when Logan tries to talk series, Rory says Vegas and then when Rory goes for the serious talk, Logan goes straight to the heart of the matter.

And that night Rory accepts she has to let Logan go and to start taking care of herself (it's what she does whenever she wakes up from surrendering to privilege). Even if losing each other isn't something either really want, they have accepted it.

Pretty much they have accepted that Rory doesn't want to be trapped inside the dynastic plan - nor does she want to be the bad guy who keeps Logan from it. And Logan doesn't force her to do anything. It's her choice.

Though fate has intervened with the baby. The baby is a Huntzberger
so Rory is now a part of the dynastic plan rather she likes it or not.

I love all your post. Your story is wonderful too. Chapter 10 is probably the greatest little bit of Rory and Logan I've read or watched since the show went off the air way back when.

Thank you for that wonderful compliment re Chapter 10! After all this analysis, I'm pretty sure they get married and build their life together off-screen. (As long as Netflix $ doesn't interfere.) I didn't like the lack of closure, I really missed canon Logan/Rory, and while I understood the metaphors and symbols, I enjoy the "reelity" of Rogan, so I decided to write an ending for them. (It's just fun too. GG provides a lot of rich characters to play with!)

Thank you for your entire comment! You summarize in 5 succinct paragraphs what took me 20 posts to describe! You get it. I get it. Isn't it amazing how many AYITL viewers came away thinking the absolute worst of Rory and especially of Logan? I've seen so many vitriolic posts! Former Team Logan supporters converted to Team Jess. Many based their understanding of the show on this vague "full circle" construct even though nothing in the character portrayals has ever supported the idea that it's a carbon copy repeat complete with baby-daddy abandonment? That Logan wanted Rory to be his mistress? That he *loved* Odette? I'm left wondering if this was the takeaway ASP wanted viewers to have or if her script was maybe a bit more *subtle* than she had intended?

Another foreshaddowing reference indicating that Logan is the one Rory ends up with is Lukes comment about Pipi.

LUKE: No, not Jess. A prince, maybe. One that's in line to be king. Not one of those waiting-for-a-brother-to-die ones, but a real one. If not a prince, someone who's gonna be good for her. You know, Rory is like Pippi.

Logan is the heir ("prince") set to be king of the Huntzberger Publishing Group. Rory also goes on a date with Robert who is not the heir of his families fortune he is 'one of those waiting-for-a-brother-to-die' Princes.

ROBERT: My entire goal in life is to outlive my brother, inherit the family fortune...

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